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Minutes of the Youth Forum
at the 2012 European Wheelchair Basketball Championships for Under 22 Men
Stoke Mandeville Stadium, Great Britain
Chairman Luc De Knock
Present Belgium, Finland, France, Israel, Italy, Germany, Great Britain, The Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Turkey.
In attendance Jan Berteling
Luc thanked everyone for attending the meeting and there was a roll call where everyone introduced themselves to the meeting.
Luc explained that all presentations would be on the website.
Luc introduced Jan and invited him to speak about the Development Commission in Europe and to provide some insight in to rule changes and interpretations of the rules.
Jan thanked Luc for organising the meeting and explained that such meetings are very important so that the sport can develop across Europe; especially with young people.
Jan explained that FIBA Europe has provided some funding to assist in the broad development goals of IWBF Europe and that is projects and joint working is identified and it is deemed appropriate that IWBF Europe may be able to assist in the development of the sport.
Jan explained that the ‘Development Commission’ is looking very closely at Youth development and that the chair is Maurice Hammerton. Jan invited people to contact Maurice if they have appropriate suggestions for development.
In order to provide clarity, Jan gave some background around why the new system for Chair-Checks had been introduced. He explained that there was still considerable discussion taking place on this subject, but that he believed the rules were moving in the right direction.
Jan explained that the principal reason for on court Chair Checks was because that due to the jurisdiction of the officials it was not possible to appropriately penalise people that may be attempting to cheat. He explained that ‘it is completely legal’ to have an illegal chair outside of the court and the game. It was also noted that coaches felt that Check-Checks before each game interrupted a team’s preparations.
It was also explained that people altering their chairs to gain an advantage contrary to the rules was illegal if it were during the game. Jan explained that there are two procedures where a chair check can be called. The first is by the coach of an opposing team and the second is by a commissioner or technical delegate.
The penalties at the moment are, if the chair is illegal, that the player is removed from that game and a technical foul is called.
It was explained that before a game, at the start of the tournaments, checks happen for reasons of safety. It was also explained that a player, coach or mechanic can ask for a chair check before games in case they are concerned. Chair checks are generally not random checks in games and there is not an intent by IWBF to interrupt games.
In terms of the punishment for infringement of the rules, some nations at the European Congress asked for much stronger penalties as someone might be caught at the end of a game or tournament having cheated throughout the competition. At the moment, IWBF (not IWBF Europe) have decided that a first offence in a tournament is removal for one game and that a second infringement is complete removal from the tournament.
It was also noted that checks would be early in games as if they were undertaken half way through a game, someone cheating may have scored considerably and that it would not be fair to remove points in retrospect.
It was noted by IWBF that we all have different opinions on how often it happens. The question is how can you do them without interrupting the flow of the game.
At this point Jan invited questions and comments.
It was suggested that it is a problem that you will not always solve as people will find ways to hide changes.
It was suggested that all we can do is ask referees to identify people who are cheating and to act on it. It is the only way that it will not be a big problem although it may never be eradicated.
It was noted that it was like doping, people will try to find a way to cheat if they want to, we must react appropriately. But we will always be reactionary. It was also suggested that the line must be strong as people cheating by adapting chairs are often high point players creating a real disadvantage to low point players.
It was suggested that players or coaches should be invited to the referee clinics to advise on chair-checks so that referees can understand the rules and changes better. This was considered as a very positive suggestion.
The comment was made that chair checks three or four seconds in to the game confuses both referees and spectators and that perhaps the time out might be a better time. Jan suggested that a time out is not actually part of the game, it was then suggested that it is in the power of IWBF to change the rule to consider the time-out as part of the game to allow for checks.
It was the consensus of the meeting that the checking of chairs was right.
World Championships - Adana
Jan reported that the first four teams plus Turkey at the European Championships will qualify for the World Championships in Adana next year. It was noted that we have five European teams at the World Championships and this was very good for Europe.
Development Competition – Belgium
Wouter Terryn invited nations to the development competition Dirk Cossaer and his team organise in Malle in Belgium. He explained the format of the competition and also encouraged people to promote any competitions they will host prior to the World Championships.
Luc expressed some disappointment from the development commission that not many people were using the website and webpages set up for development. He explained that it was being developed to support work and often has questions for nations to complete, he went on to say that the latest requesting details on school holidays was hardly completed by anyone.
It was explained that IWBF Europe need to know who the people responsible for youth competition are and that it would be very useful for nations if they were published on the website. It was noted that some countries have different people for different roles within youth. Some have a development contact, and some have a performance contact.
Germany requested that each nation could place an explanation of their youth structures on each website. Luc agreed with this and said that the presentations would be going to the website.
It was noted that people sometimes struggle to navigate the website of IWBF Europe. It was explained that finding time to work on the site is often difficult, however IWBF Europe understand there are challenges and will work to resolve them.
The UK explained that they had undertaken some development work with other nations, with the blessing of IWBF, to assist in strategic development. It was suggested that the toolkits used could be developed by IWBF Europe to support other nations and be placed on the website.
The UK also requested support for research. The UK often struggles with a minimum age for participation as there are concerns about causing damage to growing juniors by placing them in competitive opportunities to early as their bodies are still developing. It was noted that there is a reason in many sports for minimum ages. The UK asked for IWBF Europe to undertake research on the younger age group, especially around physical develop. The UK also offered their support in the work.
It was noted that there could be money from the European Union, although the application process can be complicated. Some nations such as Greece have been successful in the past. There is a lot of money in the European Union and we should work together to apply for funding.
Following an enquiry Jan explained that Turkey can be a partner country to applications to the European Union even though they are not a full member of the Union.
Completion of documents
The competition commission have requested that people complete the appropriate forms for competitions appropriately to assist the organisers of competitions. It is often difficult to know what is the family name and what is the surname. Please help IWBF and competition organisers with the forms.
It was also stated that it is important that the forms and team photographs should be sent in time. In terms of the photograph, it is better to have an old team photograph in the programme than no photograph.
Finally, if you do not know an answer to the organisers questions, please respond to say that you are dealing with the matter. It is important that you acknowledge that you are dealing with something. Otherwise it will seem to the organisers and IWBF that you are not receiving the information. It is important that we communicate with each other in a timely and respectful manner.
Comments on the Championships
In light of complaints from Turkey throughout the competition, Luc invited Turkey to air their concerns about the competition. The Turkish coach explained that he felt the accommodation was not appropriate for the level of the competition.
There were no further comments from other nations and Jan explained that he was grateful to the UK for hosting the competition when nobody else was prepared to. Jan also stated that he believed Stoke Mandeville was suitable for Junior competition.
Luc asked the countries present to consider organising the European Championships in the future as there was not a host for the 2014 Championships. Jan added that IWBF Europe we’re also looking to host the Women’s under 25 Championships in 2013 and 2014.
It was explained that team photographs will be taken before the warm up of each game tomorrow.
Following a short break there were presentations made.
Germany – Youth Development
The German Federation (Jutta Retzer) described their ‘try’ programme with a series of have a go sessions across eight major cities in Germany.
The programme has expanded in to Australia and Belgium and other nations were invited to participate in the programmes.
Presentations were made available.
Great Britain – A strategic approach to development and Inclusive Zone Basketball
The British presentation emphasised the need to think strategically. Key was the concept of recruiting people and other organisations to share goals to deliver to their own strategic objectives.
Inclusive Zone Basketball was introduced to the group as a means used in the UK to engage in schools where there are little resources and finally the young officials programme, using and retaining athletes to become officials was introduced.
Presentations were made available.
Turkey – Development in Turkey
The Turkish Federation discussed the challenges in coaching in clubs and the lack of people playing in Turkey from a young age. The challenges around working with adults with new disabilities was also expressed.
The Turkish Federation felt strongly that it would massively increase with programmes such as the German programme.
Presentations were made available.
Turkey – Adana World Championships
The Turkish delegation presented Adana as the host of the next World Championships which was received well by the group.
Presentations were made available.
Everyone was thanked for their attendance and the meeting finished.
Article from Spain
European Championship U22 Stoke Mandeville
Transport was minimal, and this was a great advantage as moving around would have
been a hassle. The courts being right next to the bedrooms made it much easier for us to
move around. Plus, the only transport we needed was from the airport to our living space
and back, which worked perfectly.
Volunteers put a big effort into ensuring the whole process went smoothly and were always
available for us and were a really important addition to the tournament that made it work
Food was decent but improvable due to that as athletes we need high-energy and
nutritious food to replenish us for the amount of daily exercise done.
Facilities were comfortable to sleep in and the fact we were in large rooms with many beds
gave us the opportunity to be more united. However, the bathrooms became unhygienic by
the end of the tournament to the point that the communal bathroom was closed down and
taking a shower was uncomfortable. To improve the living space where we washed and
slept there should be restructuring of the building. The courts were well built, the nets,
hoops and floors and sidelines did not become a distraction, so we could give our best
performance although some space for us to put our basketball chairs would have been
Schedules were really well organized as we had plenty of time to rest, eat and have
recreational time which was a huge advantage for us. The timings for the games were also
well spaced due to that our games were neither too early or late, and had time to take a
shower and go watch the next game in the sidelines.
The general level of the teams was good as it made the tournament competitive. A
suggestion is to invite teams from more countries to make the tournament longer and more
fun for everyone.
Refereeing was very well done and very fair so that the game was unbiased and also we
could see the effort the referees put into making the tournament better.
Daniel Stix, a player of the Spanish team
Article from Sweden
U-22 EM i Stoke Mandeville 2012
Det var en glad och förväntansfull grupp med Svenskar som klev av bussen från Heathrow. Hela året hade man sett fram emot detta och nu var vi här. U-22 EM i Stoke Mandeville.
När vi hade bekantat oss med både övriga lag och området så blev det en invigningsceremoni dagen därpå.
Vi var riktigt taggade hela tiden så första matchen mot Frankrike var något vi såg fram emot och efter att hela laget kämpat väl så vann vi en välförtjänt seger. Att kolla på andra matcher är nästan lika kul som att spela själv, så det var vad vi gjorde när vi inte hade egna matcher. Äta, sova och spela är en ganska bra summering av den veckan.
Efter ett par roliga dagar med lyckade matcher, härlig publik, kompisar, fantastiska funktionärer och olika aktiviteter så började veckan gå mot sitt slut och sista kvällen blev det en trevlig bankett tillsammans med alla som hade varit inblandade.
Som avslutning vill jag ge ett stort tack för alla inblandade som gjorde detta till en fantastisk upplevelse!
U-22 European Championship in Stoke Mandeville 2012
It was a happy and excited group of Swedes who got of the bus from Heathrow. The whole year we had looked forward to this, and now we were here. At the U-22 Europeans in Stoke Mandeville.
When we had familiarized ourselves with the area and the other teams there was an opening ceremony the following day.
We were really excited the whole time so the first game against France was something we looked forward to and after the whole team fought really well we won a well deserved victory. Watching other games is almost as fun as playing yourself, so that was what we did when we didn't had games ourselves. Eat, sleep and play is basically what we did that week.
After a couple of great days with successful games, wonderful spectators, friends, fantastic officials and different activities the week was coming to an end, and the last night there was a very nice banquet together with everybody involved.
Finally I want to say a big thank you to everyone who made this an amazing experience!